200 episodes

The purpose of the Hole in My Heart Podcast is to talk about how the gospel is good news for everyone every day.

How do they do that? The host, teacher, and author, Laurie Krieg, and her husband and licensed-therapist, Matt Krieg, partner up with Producer Steve, radio personality and all-around deep guy, to engage challenging topics such as sexuality, addiction, trauma, and anxiety.

The trio applies a historically biblical sexual ethic to all they talk about, and ensure the focus of the conversation always circles back to the hope-filled good news of the gospel.

To watch a video version of this podcast visit https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6O4AmkXQz9d5ydlR2FOWWV2ojjaiW8mP

To learn more about Laurie and Matt Krieg visit www.lauriekrieg.com.

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    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 231 Ratings

The purpose of the Hole in My Heart Podcast is to talk about how the gospel is good news for everyone every day.

How do they do that? The host, teacher, and author, Laurie Krieg, and her husband and licensed-therapist, Matt Krieg, partner up with Producer Steve, radio personality and all-around deep guy, to engage challenging topics such as sexuality, addiction, trauma, and anxiety.

The trio applies a historically biblical sexual ethic to all they talk about, and ensure the focus of the conversation always circles back to the hope-filled good news of the gospel.

To watch a video version of this podcast visit https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6O4AmkXQz9d5ydlR2FOWWV2ojjaiW8mP

To learn more about Laurie and Matt Krieg visit www.lauriekrieg.com.

    Episode 217: What Trees Can Teach Us About Living with Joy Marie Clarkson

    Episode 217: What Trees Can Teach Us About Living with Joy Marie Clarkson

    This is a very gentle but powerful episode. 
    Since having the conversation, I (Laurie) can’t stop seeing the people-as-trees metaphor everywhere.
    How? You’re just going to have to listen to find out. :)  
    // Highlights:
    “We all have the seasons in life. We can’t expect the same things of ourselves in every single season. When we don’t experience seasons that are fruitful or blooming, it doesn’t mean that something is wrong with us, it can just mean we are in a different season.” —Joy Marie Clarkson
    “You can’t have buds and the blooms [on a tree] without ... the old leaves dying.” —Joy Marie Clarkson
    “I had cleared the land of my life of all the things that seemed ‘pointless’ … In doing that, I made the field of my life infertile and barren. ” —Joy Marie Clarkson
    // Question of the Week:
    What do you accidentally buy too much of at the grocery store? (You have grocery-nesia?)
     
    // Do the Next Thing:
    Find Joy on IG here
    On Twitter here
    On FB here
    On her Substack here
    Her podcast here
    Join the conversation at the HIMH FB Pod Page here!
    Watch the episode here

    • 40 min
    Episode 216: From Christian Cult to Christ Follower with Christy Lynne Wood

    Episode 216: From Christian Cult to Christ Follower with Christy Lynne Wood

    Christy grew up in a hyper-legalistic system that added rigid rules to the gospel of Jesus. 
    (You might have seen glimpses of it if you watched the documentary, ‘Shiny Happy People.’)
    Even after leaving, Christy internally battled the legalism that attached itself to her knowledge of the real Jesus. How did she break free—not only physically, but mentally and spiritually?
    We also explore:
    What is the difference between authority and authoritarianism?
    How can you tell if you’re in a legalistic system?
    Why would someone be drawn to such a structure?
    How can we break free from either a direct cult like Christy experienced, or simple (but unbiblical) legalism?
    // Highlights:
    “Legalism and behavior-driven stuff (feeling like you have to perform for God) holds on tight. Even after getting out [of the cult] and going to college (I was wearing pants, I had shorter hair, and I looked way more normal than I used to look), I was still very much stuck in this idea that God didn’t like me if I wasn’t performing correctly.” —Christy Lynne Wood
    “The most damaging part of this cult was the idea of who God was: He was angry, he wanted certain behaviors and activities, and he was going to judge you and condemn you if you didn’t follow these rules and behaviors.” —Christy Lynne Wood
    “God wants us to be reconciled to the real Jesus, not to some fake god who is crushing us under his thumb… And, He wants this more than we do.” —Christy Lynne Wood
    // Question of the Week:
    Do you have grocery-nesia? Do you go to the store and think you *definitely* need something, but get home only to discover you already have four? We want to hear about it.
     
    // Do the Next Thing:
    Watch the episode here!
    You can read Christy’s blog and more here
    You can find Christy’s book, Religious Rebels, here
    We talk about understanding the genre, etc. of the Bible. This book may be a help
    Christy mentioned A Matter of Basic Principles book found here
    You can find the Diane Langberg book we talked about that explored authority, Redeeming Power, here
    Join the HIMH Podcast FB group here

    • 43 min
    Episode 215: A Testimony of Surrendered Gender with Kyla Gillespie

    Episode 215: A Testimony of Surrendered Gender with Kyla Gillespie

    Oh, wow. This story. 
    How does one woman go from a childhood of following Jesus as much as she knows how, to professional hockey, to same-sex relationships, to transitioning to male for six years, to finding the real Jesus, and then to de-transitioning in the midst of a loving church community?
    This episode has her story.
    Hear a testimony and take part in a conversation on how to walk well with people who wrestle with gender today on the podcast.
     
    // Highlights:
    “I was crying out to God on the bedroom floor, and I heard him say, ‘Kyla. Return to me.’ And I was like, ‘What do you mean, return to you? Can’t I follow you and be Brycen?’ I heard him very clearly say to me, ‘No.’ I was weeping: ‘I don’t know what this looks like. Can I ever be female again?’ And he said to me, ‘Do you trust me and are you willing?’ And I cried out in that moment, ‘Yes!’” --Kyla Gillespie
    “Do we think we are powerful enough in ourselves to change and will somebody to love Jesus? Or do we believe in the power of the Holy Spirit who saves and changes people? That’s what [the people who discipled me] did. They called me to this gospel, but they loved me in the mess.” --Kyla Gillespie
    “It’s always different when we have face-to-face relationships. Suddenly all those things we did and said on the internet turn into, ‘Oh, maybe that wasn’t so kind or so nice or so gentle. Maybe I didn’t love you the way I’m commanded to love you.’” --Kyla Gillespie
    // Question of the Week:
    What was your favorite childhood cereal?
    // Do the Next Thing:
    Find Kyla’s ministry here
    Search her on IG here
    Join the HIMH Podcast Group here
    Watch the episode here

    • 45 min
    Episode 214: What is Uniquely Hard and Hopeful for Married People Now? With Chris Bruno and Tracy Johnson

    Episode 214: What is Uniquely Hard and Hopeful for Married People Now? With Chris Bruno and Tracy Johnson

    Is anyone else feeling like they are in a rut in their marriage?
    Maybe you’re not in crisis mode, but it’s kinda just . . . meh?
    It’s easy to function; to sit on opposite couches and scroll on your phone. But, do you wonder if marriage could be better than that—not with some fantastical potion or even a weekend intensive per se, but what if it began with small, simple movements of risk toward one another?
    Today, marriage experts Tracy Johnson and Chris Bruno guide those of us who feel “in a rut” toward a gentle path of hope.
    How? 
    Grab a coffee drink you’ve never ordered before (you’ll get this reference after you listen ;)), and pull up an earbud.
    (Oh, and single friends? Thanks for listening and being a friend to us as we figure out this heavenly metaphor as you figure out yours. (See episode 213 for more on this.))
    // Highlights:
    “In the last couple of years we have seen couples move into a devolution of trust. People have stepped away from a posture of generosity toward their spouses into a posture of protection.” —Chris Bruno 
    “What I have found with the couples that we are working with is . . . they are profoundly disconnected and incredibly lonely. The surgeon general’s report that came out in May that the greatest mental health crisis we are facing as a country is actually tied to loneliness, and we are seeing the manifestation of that in the couples that are coming to us. They say, ‘I’m so lonely. How can I be so lonely in this marriage?’ . . . but without the tools to bridge that disconnection.” —Tracy Johnson
    “We live in a broken world where we assume, ‘If I risk, I will be missed.’ But what if we begin to build some trust so that we think, ‘If I risk, what if I am seen’?” —Chris Bruno
    // QOTW:
    What is *in* for you for 2024, and what is *out*?
     
    // Do the Next Thing:
    Find Tracy and Chris’ work here
    That year of good dates?? Here
    Chris and Tracy's ReStory Counseling here
    Thrive YouTube? Here
    Matt and Laurie’s fave marriage book? Here
    Laurie and Matt’s marriage book? Here
    Join the HIMH Pod FB page here! 
    Watch it here

    • 46 min
    Episode 213: The Value of Singleness with Dani Treweek

    Episode 213: The Value of Singleness with Dani Treweek

    We are going to talk about singleness until we as the Church get this right, friends.
    People talk about how marriage gives us a vision of eternity in how two different people seeking union shows the world a picture of how God (who is so different from us) will be one with His church. But, how does singleness show us a picture of what we will experience in the new heavens and new earth?
    Author and ministry leader, Dani Treweek, is here to tell us how.
     
    // Highlights:
    “I have become absolutely convinced that singleness is not just the absence of something good, but it is the presence of something good.”  —Dani Treweek
    “The industrial revolution…took the household and made it the privatized refuge from the dirty dark world of work outside. That meant that the relationships in the household became much more based on emotion and intimate ties, and the household became much more insular…. That had an impact on singleness because suddenly, singleness became the absence of those things. Singleness didn’t have a place in the household, but adjacent to it.” —Dani Treweek
    “We see in Scripture like 1 Corinthians 7 Paul saying, ‘Singleness is good. Marriage is good. Get on and live for Jesus, guys.’ Throughout all of church history we have struggled to hold that equilibrium.”  —Dani Treweek
    “Marriage and singleness are not in competition with each other. They complement each other. They need each other to make sense of each other in the church, and to make sense of who we are as the church.”  —Dani Treweek
    “We are going to be our most perfectly human selves in the next age—perfectly known and knowing perfectly, perfectly loved and loving perfectly—and we are going to do that as men and women with bodies but who are not married to each other and who are not having sex with each other. That actually says that we don’t need to be married and sexually active in our lives here and now in this creation in order to be fully human.”  —Dani Treweek
    // Do the Next Thing:
    Find Dani’s work (and book!) here
    You can follower her Substack here
    You can find her ministry is here
    Join our HIMH Podcast FB Page here
    Watch the episode here

    • 48 min
    Episode 212: How We Are Doing 2024 Differently with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

    Episode 212: How We Are Doing 2024 Differently with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

    It’s the end of 2023, so we are reflecting, looking ahead, and asking, “Do Laurie and Steve look alike?” Lol… (Matt and Laurie’s kids seem to think so…)
    HOWEVER, the conversation mostly revolves around…

    What did we learn in 2023?


    Based on what we learned, how do we want to engage 2024 with more wisdom?


    What simple tool did and are we using (and you can use, too) to plan the year?

     
    Grab the last of the egg nog, and let’s hang out!
     
    // Highlights:

    “There were times throughout this year that God felt really distant. But in that, I found myself longing for His presence.”—Steve


    “I started to find that the gym is the place I can tend to myself. I am not working with clients. I am not getting not getting milk for the kids. I am just there. No headphones on. In silence, lifting weights.” —Matt


    “The default of life is to chase fires and try to put them out. That’s how we were living and that’s how we can mostly live. I don’t want to do that all of the time . . . It’s hard to play and laugh.” —Laurie

     
    // Question of the Week:
    There is no question of the week officially, but we DO want to know: Do Laurie and Steve look alike? :D
     
    // Do the Next Thing:

    The list of Core Needs can be found here with the 2024 printable


    That Core Needs Series? Here


    The Gardens series? Here


    Our Impossible Marriage book? Here


    Watch the podcast video here

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
231 Ratings

231 Ratings

Kimgjolly ,

Loving the identity dialogue

I recently found a this podcast and I SO appreciate your honest dialogues about how our identity can be attacked by Satan, and the remedy is us speaking truth of God’s Word over ourselves - instead of trying and o speak affirmations, or feel our way into identity confidence. Thank you also for your conversations Laurie about counseling those struggling with gender issues.

Melmarmac ,

Long time listener

I’ve been listening to this podcast for a long time and I’m so glad Laurie, Matt and Steve are back!

GeorgieMH ,

Genuine. Thought-provoking. Moving.

A good friend pointed me in the direction of this podcast after I opened up to him about a portion of my testimony. I started listening to some of the more recent episodes initially then decided to start from the very beginning as I fell in like with the heart & mindset behind this ministry & people group. Both the church and lgbtq+ community (and those of us who fit within both categories) can learn & grow because of the scripture, ideas, & testimonies discussed throughout this podcast.

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